I do appreciate what few fans I have that comment on the 3d stuff I post. Although I know there's a lot better out there. Believe me, I'd like to do better myself, but there's only so much you can do with 1.86 Mhz, 8 GB RAM, and no video card. I've thought of using the 3Delight engine on Daz3d instead of Nvidia. Nvidia seems to do higher quality renders, but it absolutely kills my CPU. Watching the program's CPU usage in the task manager window, Nvidia uses 95%+ CPU when rendering. That and I'm better with the 3Delight lighting too. Just some thoughts.